The first Stridon is in the 2020 NASB. The first bible page has some severe MULTIPLE creases (think accordion) starting from the gutter radiating in a circular path towards the top and bottom edges of the page for a couple inches from the gutter. I am grateful for the bibles and related publications being produced today. Hi Randy, This is a beautiful bible. An excellent review by Mark Bertrand. And it is a quality that used to exist, but seems forgotten in our time and place. The Concord is nice bit doesnt open as well in goatskin. Full Yapp Natural Grain Black Pearl Calfskin Cover with Navy Calfskin Lining Same Pagination as the Quentel CSB (all page numbers and format will be identical) 8.5 point Milo font Page size: 4.7 x 7.1 x 1.1 (120 mm x 180 mm x 28 mm) Line Matching 28 GSM Indopaque Paper 2 Navy Ribbons Art-Gilt Edging (blue under silver) Gilt Line . My uses are as followedCambridge Concord- carrying to church[sometimes private reading. A nice shade I think. This single bad page was such it was noticeable from the outside as the creases lifted or supported the pages above it. KJV Reference Bibles Wide Margin Bibles Binding Brand Color Font Size Thumb-Index Words Of Christ In Red Price Other Sort By: KJV Classic Wide Margin Study Bible (With C.I. Glory and Honour to Our Lord and Saviour, It is my understanding the Old and New Testaments were written by 40 Jewish men through the inspiration and power of GOD. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Next noticed the gold imprinting of Bible in Holy Bible on the front cover was getting a crazed effect of small cracks in the text characters surface. 28 GSM Indopaque Paper. On a more amusing!!! Not just the double-column layout and the verse-by-verse line breaks but even the phonetic spelling of supposedly difficult words is maintained. There is another Bible coming out that I might recommend in place of the KJV Quentel for your purposes. John, This condition does not exist on the back, only the front. The paper is 32 gsm and has a slight cream tone. The silver gilding on the edges in very lightly applied. $167.50. NIV - SCHUYLER Quentel Imperial Blue Goatskin - $189.12. Concluded this was from the flexure while hand holding due to the very light embossing of this text. Anyway some great work for $98 shipped according to the receipt I found in the bible when it arrived. $225.00. Cambridge Clarion- Always a reader. I agree with you about the overall size of the Westminster, although I certainly wouldnt mind if TBS and Schuyler eventually released a large print edition, but this is probably just wishful thinking on my part. This is another feature that I think places this one above the Longprimer. They are appreciated. It is distressing to me to see how the direction of our society has taken effects this and other industries but I dont know what the solutions are. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. To my knowledge there has been at least 2 runs of the Westminster textblock: 3M/05/12 and 10.5M/01/13 (this one) from examples that I own. Here are the issues that I had with my particular sample, one of which I feel is quite egregious for a bible line promoting the status of its workmanship and quality: 1. There is an overcast line of stitching in the front and the back. After all Im the one eating the faults in keeping this example!!! For instance, I believe it was Jongbloed in the Netherlands that printed and bound the Schuyler Westminster; they also print and bind Cambridge bibles, the new Omega bible by Crossway and if Im not mistaken certain bibles from TBS, maybe even the TBS Westminster? The Quentel edition comes in a range of colors, such as dark green, imperial blue, and more. The print quality is consistent throughout. His precious Word showed the error of my ways, the love that Christ had for those His Father gave Him, and by a contrite heart why one should conform to the image of His Son out of love for He loved us first. And, I understand that LCBP is a ministry, but in some cases TBS bibles are actually cheaper than the bibles from LCBP. Indexes make maps much more usable and I think premium Bible should especially have them. Shop Now. The format of the text is beautiful. And its text block is only equaled by the Westminster, although it uses a different font. I prefer paper without a glossy shine. Other than that one badly, accordion style, creased page, there seems to be no evidence of any gutter cockling, just as typical as in the TBS Westminster edition. Thank God for firms like EVB, Alans Cambridge, etc. Used what I thought was a suitable glue and firmly pressed down the flanges against the textblock and let it setup. I have adjusted pretty well to the TBS Westminister, and can use it while seated now. If they carry an item, this is where it is bought from. From my standpoint, Id say stay with the TBS Westminster. There are at the present time, societies wherein one can be imprisoned or even killed for the possession of even a paperback bible. Features: - Calfskin Leather cover - 200,000+ Cross references - Black text throughout - Quality sewn binding - 4 Ribbon Markers (2 Red, 2 Black) - Quality Bible paper Additional Contents: - Gift presentation page Schuyler looks at all the aspects of Bible Binding to produce a Bible that represents the highest quality in binding, materials, craftsmanship & legibility. It doesnt have note pages or goatskin, but it still has great binding, lies flat, and has the best readability for preaching in my opinion. Ive been carrying the Concord, but Ill change to either the Allan or Schuyler very soon. However, Im not at all disappointed with the black, but I would like to see the color Antique Mahogany become a staple in Schuylers line. I finally concluded it was in the paper itself as part of the paper during manufacture.?? I dont want to be a curmudgeon that finds no good thing, but their are definite problems out there for almost every industry. I am afraid that is a hazard of living in the times we do rather than a general lack of concern by publishers. My concerns are font size for the first two options. Unfortunately, the non-discriminating public, wont get past the wow of the beautiful goat skin cover and seems obvious to me the manufacturers understand this well. It is very soft and the grain is pronounced. And if Randy has an issue with anything I have posted, then in the future Ill attempt to practice a little more reservation when posting comments, information or links. Schuyler Wide Margin KJV Bible. Not real sure of who you are referring to specifically, but I have gone back and reread what I had written and I did not see anything specific which would give anybody the idea that I was upset. Sponsored. Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Thanks for the update Christopher. While there are many nice features on the current crop, I also notice a lack of attention in some aspects of workmanship. The goatskin seems flawless in its general pattern. Also a fantastic reader. The text is printed in two-column format with references on the outer and inner margins. The effect of quality workmanship in this particular concern, as executed properly by Allan and LCBP is that the liner up to the start of the hinge is firmly anchored and is positioned quite close to the adjacent corner of the textblock. I am coming to a tentative conclusion that most real, practical needs can be adequately covered with ones choice of the TBS Westminster, Windsor, LCBP Cameo or one of their hand sized editions and one will not need to feel of having missed anything, but still have a quality choice and variety of good to excellent text blocks and durable covers with the obvious far cheaper prices. Be going in blind. Thanks! I love them both and I have trouble deciding which one to write in. Cambridge Concord Yes, good help is difficult to find. It has the same footprint as the Concord (just a little thicker) and the font is more like the Quentel is size and boldness. KJV Allan 53 P Longprimer Purple Highland Goatskin Concordance. Wish the liner was the same color as the cover or at least a complimentary color. They are printed much larger than other chapter summaries that Ive seen (for example, the Thompson Chain Reference, the Dugan/Jubilee Analytical Topical Study Bible, and the Brevier Clarendon). Its the Canterbury from Schuyler. This website uses cookies to improve your experience. Our best approximation for arrival in our warehouse is May. The endpapers were done in silk moir I believe it is called, also with multiple lines of imprinting on the spine and the front plus two ribbons. All I wrote was in response to other input and the direction the postings have taken have lead me to believe that at some point someones feelings were injured perhaps by me or perhaps by someone else. A King James Bible unlike any other. Was then able to easily separate each end for about 1.5 to 2 inches inboard in a diagonal manner before encountering much resistance at which point no more pulling back of the flange was attemped or even needed. Are you certain that it will be slightly smaller than the Quentel? The Schuyler Quentel is on its way to occupying a similar position as the new ESV Quentel joins the line-up. Of course all of this makes me wonder how TBS sells their bibles at such a reduced price. May Gods blessings be upon Allan, Schuyler/Evangelical Bible, Trinitarian Bible Society, Local Christian Bible Publishers and others who seek to create and distribute the Word in a respectful way. But, apparently technology has yet to advance to that level. Cambridge KJV Concord Reference Bible, Dark Blue Goatskin-RED Letter, Full Yapp. The goatskin cover is of the highest quality. EVBs customer service is outstandingly polite and courteous. Rare OOP Schuyler Reference KJV dark purple. What they have done with the better blue ribbons, classy cover with gold inlay around the inner edge, and binding changes, has made this to be in my opinion, the best bible you can own. And just in case anyone is interested, the article below may shed a little light on the owner of Evangelicalbible.com and Schuyler brand bibles. It is a sad commentary on the society we live in. Yet, history is replete with countless examples where his protection did not extend to the saving of the physical lives of His faithful, even those that sang praises of joy as their lives were extinguished in the most horrible manners and remained steadfast to their final breath. If the flange is not glued down as well as stitched, I saw a possibility with use that it may lift after the cover had endured a measure of movement or flexing? In Saudi Arabia any bibles from those entering the country are confiscated. I hope to take some comparison photos soon. The liner is black, which doesnt look as nice as it could have if it matched the cover. There is more show-through than I would like, but its only really noticeable in bright lighting. With that said, my wife has used the calfskin TBS as her daily Bible since I reviewed it in January of 2013. This is totally unacceptable in an $185 bible if the makers of a $30 or so dollar bible can get this right. I will make my position clear in the hope that it may somehow smooth out any upset if indeed there is any. LOAN STAR PAWN LLC STATE 354609134976 I could be wrong but I dont think it would be significantly longer. Scriptura Bible Rebind Review. Did not realize what was the cause of the bulge until at last. I know that there are other ministries and firms other than those I mentioned, and in the Christian Publishing environment, I have yet to encounter a scoundrel though some may exist. Yes it could be better, but it could be a whole lot worse. Next I wanted to see dimensionally just how much the left portion of the front cover is raised above the textblock when bible is laying down flat. without subheadings, references, etc., but at the same time remains practical for Bible study. I absolutely like it! The Schuyler measures .129-.130 thick per 100 sheets (200 pages) versus .132 similarly for the TBS. Perhaps, it is just vanity, but I really like the Westminster text block, one major reason is that it is not self-pronouncing, and appreciate a nice cover and the edge lined construction. In 1611, the King James Version Bible, also known as the Authorized Version, was published. Even my old, but unused, Holman Master Study Bible (mid 1980s) in hand grained Morocco, made in the USA will rival or exceed the Netherlands entries workmanship. Cover The Westminster Reference Bible is available in hardback or Meriva calfskin covers. While observing this, noticed a little gap at the head and foot of the textblock where there was a trace of separation between it and the bottom side of the liner flange towards the hinge. In today's video, we take look at an out of print KJV Schuyler Reference BiblePickup a TBS Westminster here - https://evangelicalbible.com/product-category/t. Same paper, thickness, etc. It's available in goatskin in several colors. This functional Bible contains over 200,000 cross-references appearing in the margins, as well as a concordance and 8 full-color maps. God bless all of you. First, they have created a text setting that looks more like the ol' KJV than the ol' KJV itself. Firstly, decided to check each page while hand holding the bible. I hold no animosity to those who hold other opinions, what is important to me is that the Bible be read, respected and honored, and most importantly that Gods Word be uplifted throughout the world. However, I could never be so adventurous as to purchase another Schuyler and it should be obvious that I had no intention of sending this one back (if so it would have been for a refund this time) before meddling into fixing the irritation! The Canterbury is Schuyler's first originally designed King James Version. Feb 17, 2023 | Rebind | . Noticed some slight discoloration?? They would only include the chapter that starts on the page, so they would show 39-40. 3. . The Jerusalem Cross is dry stamped onto the front. and the pain will be a lot less! I hope none of you all take any of my comments as meaning anything other than that. I think the criticism on this thread has been respectful and should be helpful to all concerned, so where did this feeling that at least one of us is upset about what has been said come from? Its the perfect size large enough to contain great tools and features, but not too large to carry and hold. This was rolled back about , at which point it was well secured to the textblock, along its entire length fully revealing the topside of the liner flange. The KJV Reference font is prettier because its digital and I prefer it for general reading, but I do prefer the bolder fonts.