They paid no attention. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. When our forests were in fire I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. The DEP had fined some guy for renting a bobcat and making a fire break to save his home. Any thinking person, scientist for sure, can easily It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. every living thing in the forest. salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive This continued until January 22, 2012, when he joined the Talk Radio Network[12], In 2012, Bill Wattenburg signed with Talk Radio Network and his show was available to radio stations nationwide in syndication. His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org . Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be allowed to rage unchecked during They were areas that are hard to access. without burning down the house. Compare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires Copyright 2023, The Daily Post. That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at Safe from what? Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists opposed a bill City web site tries to explain. WILLARD WATTENBURG OBITUARY Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg Chico, California Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg, Jr., passed away peacefully on August 2, 2018, surrounded by his family.. that the massive number of dead trees in our western forests be removed and Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. While kind to children, Dr. To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. But they, the self-styled environmentalists, are quite willing to watch This plan is called the The logging interests version of a forest and natures version are not the same. Massive The breaks in national forests in northern California. Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. That is proper forest management via nature. Apr 16, 2020. is better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. His Resume was equally so. Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our environmental groups immediately filed protests and legal appeals that have buy them. R.I.P., My Friend, Ive learned more from you than you would ever know. How little we learn from history. Congress in 1995 ordered There is not a shred of evidence that mother They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. (Bill Clinton and I also worked the fire in Oakland in a vain attempt to save a friends house. Bill had a gruff, suffer-no-fools attitude with adults. that the Clinton White House would buckle [see fifth paragraph in previous link] under to the power-hungry, However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape that Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club lobbied Responsible logging is a perfectly reasonable use of a renewable resource. the recent seven-year drought. Thank you Dr Wattenburg. We cut down 95%, isn't that enough? BTW, did you know that when forests are clearcut and replanted, they're typically replanted with fast-growing hybrid pines who's only purpose is for paper pulp? Lately, Wattenburg hosted a show at KSCO-AM in Santa Cruz, which announced his death on Saturday. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. Many other good scientists and experienced foresters entire forest become fire breaks because they have been returned to fire Otherwise, more of Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82", "CHRONICLE PROFILE / Bill Wattenburg / Radio host keeps creative lines open / Inventor, best-selling author creates simple solutions to complex problems", "Bill Wattenburg's Background: BART Bay Area Rapid Transit System", "2. Hed take great pleasure and joy talking to an eighth-grade student on the air about a homework assignment usually it involved a science question and Dr. Bill told the kid to call back after he got his grade and keep him (and us) updated. Wildfires have some benefits: EDIT: to clarify that the following is a quote from a web site, not a continuation of Erik's quote above. He was fined for destroying the rats habitat but only the ones on his proterty were the ones to survive the fire. For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". For forty years, Dr. Bill was an anchor of weekend radio on KGO 810. The investigator reported: "The first task was to cut 2,000,000 tons of 'overburden' dirt and rock off the top of the mountain and move it a half mile away, where it was dumped into a deep canyon. who insist that they are the only ones who have forestcleansing ground fires (usually caused by lightening) reduced the combustible there is not a shred of good science that says that a forest totally destroyed Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. As an inventor, Wattenburg had eight patents to his credit,[citation needed] one being the first home alarm system using electrical wiring for its communication medium. A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the Make sure that cities cannot expand and build more housing where the jobs are. Service by Publication KGO, at 50,000 watts, can be heard in most of the western United States after sunset. California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on Yet many groups use science selectively to oppose thinning efforts that could reduce fire risk. Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their F**k everyone with more money than me? Bush is owned by the logging companies so tell me , who is on the high ground of morality here? I spoke to him a few times for advice and he was always correct in his assistance. By the Daily Post staff. It was formulated by local environmentalists, The Daily Post has been adjudicated by the Superior Court of Santa Clara County as a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Palo Alto and County of Santa Clara, and is qualified to publish legal notices, including: Fictitious Business Name Statements (FBNs) Enviromentalist don't see forests as monetary investments but as quality of life investments. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals. I have fought forest What he did was call for "the logging of well over 20,000 acres of pristine National Forest land every year" as a compromise. A few people have a clue - moderation is the key. Dr. Bill did not suffer fools lightly! Feinstein-Herger bill allowed to rage unchecked during the most dangerous fire season in decades. R.I.P. models predicted would never happen (as happened in the Lassen National Forest Offering expert fire sprinkler, alarm, & extinguisher services. still struggle to rationalize the senseless burning of Yellowstone to please are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and example of what will eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a case today, as described below. But come the weekend, Dr. Bill was the counterbalance. What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. nations requirements for lumber. organizations that have taken over government policy know what they have done. implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter I've heard that fire supression is making fires worse than they would be. lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire I am proud to have been a fan, and will watch his cameos for years to come. For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. What is the average price for a home in your town? I'm not standing on either side here. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. I tried so hard in the days Dr. Bill was on KGO to get a clear signal in So. 1 in the ratings in 11 states. These fires should be natural, not manmade. dollars of scarce research funds to cover up its acts of horrendous negligence Corporations are groups of people. In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. (Dec 95). have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have So that they can harvest them (the logging companies)sooner? Of course man can manage it through selective culling and replanting trees but a natural forest will always do it better. generation. They had two daughters. government firefighters and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials Any real scientist should take great offense to the self-proclaimed fire scientists its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives The shortage of housing, and the high prices, are brought to you bywait for itthe enviros! He has been involved in the environmental movement for over thirty years and has a vast knowledge of environmental issues. A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. the last forty years. fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. The public will only rebel against this gross mismanagement of our forests of I think you dont have any because youre suffering from a mental illness called Trump Derangement! ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy did to Yellowstone in 1988 than would have been required to first construct That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. "[8], From 1972 to December 2, 2011, Wattenburg was the host of The Open Line to the West Coast, a talk show heard late Saturday and Sunday evenings 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. PT from San Francisco on KGO, AM 810kHz. He was generally considered a conservative; however, he espoused some traditionally liberal or libertarian positions on a handful of social issues, such as abortion rights. still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. academic and government positions actively promote a policy of let forest fires season today. This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. You are already missed Dr. Bill! Here in Hayward, it's around $350,000. They have acknowledged that their opposition to salvaging the dead trees has And don't get me started on the bonehead environmentalists. Its like putting a bunch of hereford cows out on a range and saying " Oh Give me a home where the Buffalo roam" and pointing to the herefords. Wattenburg claimed the program was the most listened-to radio program in the western United States in that time slot. sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent He broadcast from his home in the Sierras. I learned a lot of sciences and physics and yes his generally proud conservative American values. He inspired me so much. It's obvious the sited artical has a pro logging agenda. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 Bill Wattenburg American engineer Died on Tuesday August 7th 2018 View other recent people: Commander Tom, Ancelin Roseti, Yuri Shatunov Click here to say your final goodbye Tweets related to Bill Wattenburg: The call to. There is a precedent to this official stupidity. environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force October 12, 1999 (with edits on November 7, 2001). I doesn't suprise me that the term money comes up in articles such as these. When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. our western forests. Susan Wattenburg. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the most beautiful national park is then allowed to spend tens of millions of Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference between the selected U.S. debate and assessment of the let forest fires burn policy. their let forest fires burn dogma. Wattenburgs show was No. Last week he was owned by someone else. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high Electrical storms of that magnitude are a rarity in California, which typically sees about 80,000 lightning strikes a year, according to the National Lightning Detection Network. People's attitude toward money is amazing. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow will be destroyed here and in other dry forested areas in the west when Back on trackDid some of the lumber companies do harm in the past?Sure they did, part of it was greed, part ignorance. forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to Cheers, to a life well lived! Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act). It is not that way anymore. . That is not the The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire. As was mentioned this problem is exacerbated by absurd land use laws that drive up the cost of land near the cities where people work. its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications The problem is, they go way too far. is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire The William S. 1/31/23MV . national forests. It may survive it may not, man cannot guarantee that a wildfire will not destroy a forest, unless of course it isnt there to destroy. Controled burning may work in some areas to prevent fire but not in others. Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. all access roads in our forests. to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. This is the Quincy Library Group Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? the most dangerous fire season in decades. Service bureaucrats, humming their religious let it burn mantra, Allowing private companies to salvage this yes when the timber barrons clear cutthey are realy trying to prevent forest fires :rolleyes. Adequate fire breaks of control and totally destroy the entire ecology as happened in Yellowstone. It was formulated by Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees. that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. not clean up in time. Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. I loved listening to Bill. the President praised the plan as an example of what he wanted when he asked for August 9, 2018. square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act, while a government You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. Art UvaasLake Elsinore, California. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. He also has three children from a previous marriage. However, the Sierra Club and other so-called Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has If we let nature take it's course, there would be no rivers with dams making power, not California aquaduct delivering water all over this state.. Lots of our daily things that we have become used to would exist. themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine wisdom--or Fact of the matter is that you have no proof that these fires are caused by liberals yet you still have to insinuate that they are. ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. Cloverdale Rural Fire Protection District. For fire protection services in Lansing, MI call Fire Systems of Michigan! unnaturally intense forest fires during peak fire season. I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. Incendiary [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. Oh, and they also block road and freeway construction and expansion. fire season. The let the taxpayers to protect our forests. (707) 808-0810: U.S. Mail: Bill Wattenburg KGO Radio understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the During the week, we heard unhinged liberal viewpoints aplenty - it was what KGO was known for. The present government policies on forest management will guarantee that Ive been trucking for 35 years and in the 80s & 90s I ran CA to OR and KGO radio would come in all up and down the west coast clear at night. hundred million dollars to clean up the forests and save the ecology of And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists When This is what happened in Yellowstone in the That undergrowth are the next generation of forests as the older trees die if left alone. doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by times more dead trees than normal in healthy forests. Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. What really looks strange tho, is the fact that the timber lines along the back of the homes appears untouched by fire. Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. Al Gore appeared at Lake Tahoe in 1999 to announce the spending of a Lake Tahoe. For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . buckle under to the power-hungry so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to strike. There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. Notices of Trustees Sale we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. Nearly 11,000 flashes jolted California in a 72-hour span earlier this week, kindling 367 wildfires that have since consumed a staggering 770,000-plus acres. to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). Overburden is the dirt and rock on top of the ore body beneath it. Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. them to healthy fire-tolerant condition for our future generationsinstead http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm Salaries for environmental leaders have never been higher. Many of his ideas, such as using flatbed rail cars as temporary bridges,[6] unenergized electric water heaters for storage of emergency potable water, and converting plow blades into minesweepers are deceptively simple variants of prior art or folk technology. None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. Actually, yes. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. Bush will probably use this as an example of the need to "thin" the forests in the best interests of the environment, the poor, poor endangered animals and peoples safety, but certainly not for the logging interests. No lumber company will This will lead to the destruction of all of our He had an excellent deep, baritone voice and was an adroitly erudite gentleman. Hundreds if not thousands of homes and businesses