I want to just ask Randi, you've been taking pot shots from everybody here on stage, including us at times. BRZEZINSKI: What happens to these kids? /Contents 36 0 R 4 0 obj Charter schools are public schools, public dollars, public school children and to talk about them as if they are not public schools, I think does a disservice to that movement. CANADA: This is why I think this is such an important movie. When they hear this back and forth, there's the sense of like, you know what, put my head in the sand, take care of my own kids because this debate has been going on for generations. So it's important to understand how this is locked down here in D.C. and in New York. The only disagreement that I think our union has had in terms of the way in which things have gone, is that our folks have desperately wanted to have a voice in how to do reform. Andrew O'Hehir of Salon wrote a negative review of the film, writing that while there's "a great deal that's appealing," there's also "as much in this movie that is downright baffling. That youre not going to look American with our 15,000 school system and say we're going to charter them, that's just not going to happen in my lifetime. Waiting For Superman may refer to: Waiting for "Superman", a 2010 documentary. DAISYS FATHER: Go like this. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The space with the Xs is for all of the fifth grade students moving into the sixth grade for next year. This is our country. It's going to be mommy's job to get you another school that's better. I have a 12-year-old that goes to public school. "[30] Lastly, Ayers writes that "schools are more segregated today than before Brown v. Board of Education in 1954," and thus criticized the film for not mentioning that "black and brown students are being suspended, expelled, searched, and criminalized. 7 0 obj There was, as Geoff said, a sense that failure was tolerable, as opposed to a focus on success. We're not attacking teachers. WebTRANSCRIPT: WAITING FOR SUPERMAN PANEL DISCUSSION WITH: NBC'S JOE SCARBOROUGH; NBC'S MIKA BRZEZINSKI;DAVIS GUGGENHEIM, DIRECTOR, CANADA: The thing I think Chancellor Klein and Mayor Bloomberg have done, they really looked for people to come into the city who had a proven track record. But I think that's false. RHEE: What I think it comes down to, people underestimate we did from the school system side everything we need to do. Waiting for "Superman" premiered in the US on September 24, 2010, in theaters in New York and Los Angeles, with a rolling wider release that began on October 1, 2010. The lottery in this movie is a metaphor. But do you think Michelle Rhee was trying to improve the performance of the teachers in her district, was she trying to make the schools better? << BRZEZINSKI: They were picked off the street in a lottery. Because we talked to Randi before. "[23], Author and academic Rick Ayers lambasted the accuracy of the film, describing it as "a slick marketing piece full of half-truths and distortions" and criticizing its focus on standardized testing. KENNY: Right. /Type /Pages All of my kids have gone to public school. Having made a film on the subject in 1999, documentary filmmaker. I get to spend a lot of time with the kids. He wrote "Shine," the theme song for "Waiting For Superman." It starts with teachers becoming the very best, leaders removing the barriers of change, neighbors committed to their school, you willing to act (Guggenheim 1:45:05-1:45:28). LEGEND: My last thing I would say, we have to realize that these kids are our kids. She was assigned in January. Theres a lot of schools that I want to take you to Davis, great public schools where we are breaking the sound barrier, too. By Stephen Holden. Ultimately they want the tools and conditions in order to do that. Waiting for "Superman" is a 2010 American documentary film written and directed by Davis Guggenheim and produced by Lesley Chilcott. RHEE: We wanted to give the teachers the tools. Ravitch said that "cheating, teaching to bad tests, institutionalized fraud, dumbing down of tests, and a narrowed curriculum" were the true outcomes of Rhee's tenure in D.C. Waiting for Superman, a documentary about the mediocre public school system in the U.S., uses both techniques to great effect. >> Having said that, we have all done too much about focusing on bad teachers. How do we let every kid -- SCARBOROUGH: There are two Americas. We applaud everybody for joining us on this stage. ANTHONY: Its bittersweet to me. /ExtGState << Obviously at the end most people watching this movie teared up. One of these amazing children is a boy named Anthony. By the nature of who my family is. There are two Americas right now when it comes to education. SCARBOROUGH: Why is it -- [ applause ] why is it that you have an area like Washington, D.C. that is 12 percent proficient in math? There are really, really bad charter schools across America. SCARBOROUGH: The nation's capital. /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text ] }>=Uw2cS=V. I9kZJw^EAOd j]Y[wl-e06E#/mlyTbE9f}@8 a/ ^} The principal wants her to stay. We increased graduation rates. I knew what the final scene would look like and I still broke down three times. GUGGENHEIM: When the media asked me to make the film, I originally said no. And we're going to figure out, we're going to get people together here. [16], The film has also garnered praise from a number of conservative critics. I think what's happened in places like Washington and I saw it compared to New York City. And that's something that no parent wants their child to ever be a witness or to hear when they're going to school. endobj KENNY: We catch them up to basic level and we accelerate them to proficient. He wrote "Shine," the theme song for "Waiting For Superman." Waiting for Superman.2010. SCARBOROUGH: Davis? What's going on here? As he follows a handful of promising kids through a system that inhibits, rather than encourages, academic growth, Guggenheim undertakes an exhaustive review of public education, surveying "drop-out factories" and "academic sinkholes," methodically dissecting the system and its seemingly intractable problems. Take a look. Acquiring that good education is the daunting challenge they face. Your last really big film was "Inconvenient Truth." The reason is because we're allowed to give our teachers freedom and then hold them accountable for results. WebShop for waiting for superman documentary transcript filetype:lua at Best Buy. WebFILM SUMMARY With passion and urgency, WAITING FOR SUPERMAN advocates for the educational welfare of Americas children in a public school system that is severely We have to fix this thing and it means the adults have to take leadership. /MC0 37 0 R You can't do it with the district rules and the union contracts as they are in most districts. Waiting for Superman. The most influential scene during this segment is when one of the students, Bianca, and her mother, Nakia, wait for Biancas name to be called as the lottery nears the end. It took a little while to get the money straightened for this green light and 80 percent of the teachers voted for that agreement. Thank you for joining us. Fox News. The filmmakers made sure to film how Nakia becomes increasingly more anxious and concerned as time passes during the lottery, but fewer spots become available and her daughters name has not been called (Guggenheim 1:32:49). Geoffrey Canada has done it. DAISYS FATHER: Come on, Daisy, cross your fingers. More importantly than our union, the new mayor is committed to it. The filmmakers deliberately kept the camera on certain students and their families, like Nakia and Bianca, in order to show how those who did not get into charter schools felt extremely disappointed and emotional because they had hoped to be accepted into a schoolthat would not fail them. Thats just one of the great things that we see. /Resources << Last Friday night I watched Davis Guggenheims new documentary, Teach, which was broadcast in on CBS.Guggenheim, you may recall, is the filmmaker who brought us Waiting For Superman, the shameless propaganda-fest that signaled the full-on nuclear stage of the corporate-driven war on public education (also known as the Because politically, these -- the things that we were doing, closing down schools, firing teachers, moving principals, those were not politically popular things to do. SCARBOROUGH: Davis, let's begin with you. Because there is no downside to failure. >> SCARBOROUGH: The reformer. You don't come off well in this movie. And Im not going to pretend that you can just come in and snap your fingers and things are going to get better overnight. SCARBOROUGH: Its about jobs. It's not about charter schools. The film assumes that any student below proficient is "below grade level," but this claim is not supported by the NAEP data. BRZEZINSKI: No. I think the point of departure between Michelle and I may be that I see, just like in Finland and Singapore and other places, that we need to all actually work together, focused on instruction, focused on how we help people do the best jobs they can and then -- BRZEZINSKI: Wasnt that what she was doing? >> BRZEZINSKI: What was wrong with what she was doing? /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] So people keep talking about accountability just in terms of firing teachers but what I think people need to understand is how accountability allows you to unleash teacher passion by setting on fire all the teachers in the school because you're allowed to give them the freedom to teach the way they see fit. /GS0 47 0 R UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Vergosa, Andrew. You went into the lottery system for your daughter. First, I loved that town hall today. BRZEZINSKI: On Tuesday morning at 8:00 a.m. from this very stage, General Colin Powell and his wife on "MORNING JOE." During its opening weekend in New York City and Los Angeles, the film grossed $141,000 in four theaters, averaging $35,250 per theater. /BleedBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] 100 percent of the kids pass the science regions. By the time they finish eighth grade, they will have doubled their math and reading scores. BRZEZINSKI: Its very hard to watch this movie. I think he wants to do the right thing. 5 0 obj >> That means in the midterms. LEGEND: Well, it's been quite a learning experience because I get to meet great educators. SCARBOROUGH: What have you learned since getting involved? Broadcast: Saturday, September 25, 2010. SCARBOROUGH: What we hear, Randi, morning after morning after morning from progressives, from conservatives, from Republicans, from Democrats, from independents, seems to be the same thing. << /GS0 18 0 R When I see from my own experience as a school teach are for six years when evaluations didn't work and less than 20 percent of them think that evaluations work right now. And she thought I was crying because it's like Santa Claus is not real and I was crying because there was no one coming with enough power to save us. Since charter schools do not operate with the same restrictions as public institutions, they are depicted as having a more experimental approach to educating students. SCARBOROUGH: Randi said the teachers wanted the tools to get the job done. You believe it, don't you, Michelle? Don't make -- Im tired, man, I wake up at 3:30 in the morning. LEGEND: Yes. Final words with our panel, next after a short break. endobj What are your thoughts? I know they are. There's a lot of people in this country that aren't feeling what we feel. WEINGARTEN: John. Where has the union misstepped to help us get to where we are today? How do we spread that from Harlem across America? DEBORAH KENNY, HARLEM VILLAGE ACADEMY: Well its what we're doing and a lot of the schools around the country are doing when they're given the freedom, which is what the charter gives you to accomplish these results. Where does the union take some responsibility in this? I'd like to follow up by asking you, that on "MEET THE PRESS" this morning, you said the union has taken steps to make teachers better, taken concrete steps. RHEE: Were not going to be able to solve the problem going one city at a time. Because I know he's easily influenced to do things he shouldn't do. /Contents 33 0 R We decreased violent crimes that were happening in the schools. [32][33][34][35][36], A teacher-backed group called the Grassroots Education Movement produced a rebuttal documentary titled The Inconvenient Truth Behind Waiting for Superman, which was released in 2011. WebWaiting for Superman/Transcript. I think sometimes there's a disconnect between them. I think the question about whether school reform can continue at as an aggressive rate under him is whether hes going to be able to stand up to the fact that SCARBOROUGH: Let me ask you this Michelle. It is a revolution. There are also comparisons made between schools in affluent neighborhoods versus schools in poorer ones. 10 0 obj endobj /Rotate 0 SCARBOROUGH: Right. WEINGARTEN: Yeah, of course. /Im0 19 0 R /GS1 17 0 R American schools face frequent budget cuts, but its not all about the money. SCARBOROUGH: Last in, first out. If I don't, Ill just be with my friends. >> This is why. You talked about evaluations like every other business. SCARBOROUGH: No doubt about it. We're seeing all this great success in Harlem, there were forces that were trying to make sure that that couldn't be replicated on a larger scale. RHEE: I'm just wondering, if the AFT was putting a million dollars into mayoral campaigns all across the country just based on who the teachers liked, I would buy that argument. I want to ask you another really quick question and then go around to the rest of the panel. This is a documentary about our failing education system and the tears we saw in this room are about our children and how our schools are leaving them behind. Ht6R*bs7n& So we're going to differentiate and we're going to recognize and reward the highest performing teachers and we're going to look at the lowest performing teachers and we're going to remove them from the system. "[10] Joe Morgenstern, writing for The Wall Street Journal, gave the film a positive review writing, "when the future of public education is being debated with unprecedented intensity," the film "makes an invaluable addition to the debate. /ArtBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] WebSummaries. The site's consensus states: "Gripping, heartbreaking, and ultimately hopeful, Waiting for "Superman" is an impassioned indictment of the American school system from An Inconvenient Truth director Davis Guggenheim. SCARBOROUGH: Michelle, let me ask you this. SCARBOROUGH: Thanks a lot, Davis, way to go, man. One of the most disheartening moments of the movie for me is when you were driving away from the meeting, your meeting, with the teachers, and it just showed your face. Why were you frightened to send her to school. SCARBOROUGH: Crying uncontrollably because it is unbelievable, some of the conditions that our kids are forced to learn in right now. I knew -- as Davis said, I knew what was going to happen before she knew what was going to happen. WEINGARTEN: Im just -- that's why there was a cap from the early -- SCARBOROUGH: We have a lot of people that want get involved here. I said that's right, but that was mommy's choice to put you in that school. /Resources << These are our communities. BRZEZINSKI: If you leave Washington, D.C. are you going to Newark? /ArtBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] Tomorrow morning Joes going to be live from Learning Plaza. GUGGENHEIM: The dream of making a movie like this is conversations just like this, the fact that you and NBC and Viacom and Paramount and Get School bring a movie to the table and let people in this room have a real conversation about to fix our schools is essential. You cannot say -- you can't say, well, the problem with charter schools is they only serve some of the kids when in fact you are advocating for caps on those effective charter schools. /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] WEINGARTEN: A collaboration issue was where we disagreed at times. Gripping, heartbreaking, and ultimately hopeful, Waiting for Superman is an impassioned indictment of the American school system from An Inconvenient Truth BRZEZINSKI: It was still painful. BRZEZINSKI: Ill tell you right now, Randi, I want to know after the break why we can't use pay to inspire teachers. Let me answer your question first. Davis Guggenheims Documentary, Waiting for Superman explores the corrupt American School system. /Contents [ 9 0 R 10 0 R 11 0 R 12 0 R 13 0 R 14 0 R 15 0 R 16 0 R ] I get why that's good for the adults. Michelle Rhee, the former chancellor of the Washington, D.C. public schools (the district with some of the worst-performing students at the time), is shown attempting to take on the union agreements that teachers are bound to, but suffers a backlash from the unions and the teachers themselves. /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] DAVIS GUGGENHEIM: No. We've been talking about the teacher town hall hosted by Brian Williams earlier today. Because what's happened in so many instances, is that the evaluation system is what's broken. Thank you so much for doing this and also sharing your story in the movie. What if I made a movie that gets people to care about other peoples children and fight for other people's children as much I fight for mine. SCARBOROUGH: Okay. /ArtBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] In fact you come off quite badly. /MediaBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] SCARBOROUGH: It was about education. Eighth graders at Kipp L.A. Prep get triple the classroom time in math and science. There are people who have figured out systems of improving education and the mayor was very aggressive in bringing those folk into New York City and saying to them, we're going to remove the obstacles for you all to do your work. All we're going to do is pay good teachers more money. So let me say, because I get told a lot that Im teacher bashing. >> 8 0 obj BRZEZINSKI: Welcome back. You are not exactly what some would consider to be a conservative filmmaker. >> 1 0 obj %PDF-1.3 Davis, I want to go to you on this one. And it's just -- it changes your perspective. These are your schools, your communities. So they were trying to impose a cap on the number of charter schools that could be had in New York. The good guys/heroes are low-income American parents, hoping to provide a good education for their children. We're in a crisis. /BleedBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] Some of us have spent our lives working on behalf of children and teachers who teach children. We're just saying --. I have a good feeling about this. Things such as the ease in which a public school teacher achieves tenure, the inability to fire a teacher who is tenured, and how the system attempts to reprimand poorly performing teachers are shown to affect the educational environment. Cross your fingers. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You see the cages up here. I love teachers. When you have kids from Harlem going there with first grade reading proficiency and science proficiency and they leave three years later with 100 percent proficiency, it just -- at some point it becomes a moral issue. /Rotate 0 GUGGENHEIM: And the stakes for them. SCARBOROUGH: Right. SCARBOROUGH: Why are you going to get fired? This isn't some Hollywood drama or a romance flick. And systems that actually help create continuous improvement. So the kids who came to us in 8 plus 3 they would couldn't the like this. 4,789 Views. >> They do allow us to figure out what's working and we should replicate it and what's not and we should close those charter schools that arent working so that we actually develop a science in our business about what works in what kinds of environments and in what kinds of communities. I went up and I saw a revolution, a revolution that you helped start. Towards the end of the film, there is a segment that illustrates the charter school lottery as it takes place for different schools. You try to make reforms and it causes a problem. Kids coming into middle school and fifth grade with first grade reading abilities, leaving in eighth grade with a 100 percent proficiency, outscoring kids in Scarsdale, New York. Why did you pick this topic? BRZEZINSKI: What are you saying, Randi, what is he saying? BRZEZINSKI: You can hear the distrust here. Educational reception and allegations of inaccuracy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Next year, Anthonys class will move up to junior high. I want to talk about New York for one second. Sept. 23, 2010. SCARBOROUGH: Not a Bush apostle. If I want something for her and I cant get it from there, I'm going to find an alternative. /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text ] SCARBOROUGH: All right. SCARBOROUGH: How do we do it, Geoffrey? WebWaiting For Superman (871) 7.4 1 h 51 min 2010 X-Ray PG The lives of five Harlem and Bronx families in the high stakes lottery for access to New York City's best charter It was so heartbreaking to see her upset and all of the other children around her not being called and not being picked. "[9] Scott Bowles of USA Today lauded the film for its focus on the students: "it's hard to deny the power of Guggenheim's lingering shots on these children. You know that process has to be fixed. SCARBOROUGH: Really quickly. >> We even tolerate mediocre teachers. GUGGENHEIM: Whats really -- people -- when I hear this conversation, I want to bring it back to parents. You believe it. NAKIA: The public schools in my neighborhood don't add up to what I want from her. BRZEZINSKI: These are compelling arguments that we all can agree on but, Randi, let me just put it to you this way. Why? WebThe documentary Waiting for Superman, directed by Davis Guggenheim, is a film that shows how school systems are today. WEINGARTEN: Let me -- SCARBOROUGH: If it wasn't about education, I mean, what was it about? What did you learn? There is a perception out there that is the union that is standing in the way of principals firing bad teachers. /TrimBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] We just don't want lousy teachers to be able to keep their jobs and kids not get an education. We love good teachers. Webwaiting for superman movie transcript+filetype:ppt+filetype:pdf. WEINGARTEN: The issue in terms of the D.C. election was our members and others really like Vincent Gray. Randi we'll let you get a response in here and also, Mika, what we're going to do is figure out where everybody agrees. LEGEND: I think there needs to be an understanding in our community when we fight for our kids we're fighting for our community. Explain to me how that is good for children. /T1_0 24 0 R The attendance and the schools itself. (END VIDEO CLIP) BRZEZINSKI: And there are kids that don't make it. The union itself has instead of focusing on good teachers and how we need to help them, give them the tools and conditions, we have always focused on, you know, the due process protections. << Statistical comparisons are made between the different types of primary or secondary educational institutions available: state school, private school, and charter school. A good education, therefore, is not ruled out by poverty, uneducated parents or crime and drug-infested neighborhoods. /Filter /FlateDecode ?zBzD%YC1_PVu,fkGsM'2Hnm^]6_1W|qpff&,+y cWoM~UNxa*_EE}=}z/P__~:Y)z `'4Q!-ccE"?6HD6JW (b]Jl BP> In New York City, a group of local teachers protested one of the documentary's showings, calling the film "complete nonsense", writing that "there is no teacher voice in the film. /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text /ImageC ] We have to go to break right now. << But we need to have real evaluation systems, which is what the union has been focused on, so that teachers are really judged fairly. E]D[JWlwH{,j73?Mazd. BRZEZINSKI: You also knew that a little girl like Daisy can be a vet or a doctor or anything she wants to be if she's given the tools to do it. We need to get involved and take ownership over this and go to the schools and tutor, go to the schools and mentor. I think if we actually got to what constitutes a good teacher and had that kind of standard we'd all be in the same place on that and there are about 50 or 60 districts right now, I made a proposal in January about how to overhaul evaluation. Ravitch says that a study by Stanford University economist Margaret Raymond of 5000 charter schools found that only 17% are superior in math test performance to a matched public school, and many perform badly, casting doubt on the film's claim that privately managed charter schools are the solution to bad public schools. /Filter /FlateDecode Waiting for "Superman" is a 2010 American documentary film written and directed by Davis Guggenheim and produced by Lesley Chilcott. >> The film will focus on the times when Superman is younger, with an emphasis on how he balances his Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing . Take a look. /CropBox [ 0 0 595.27600 841.89000 ] >> GUGGENHEIM: The issue is not just lousy teachers. Now, a couple of years ago, an independent group called Ed Sector actually surveyed a whole bunch of teachers and asked teachers the question about whether they needed or wanted a union. When you hear, well, I get paid whether or not you learn or not, it sticks with you. BRZEZINSKI: Okay. GUGGENHEIM: Those parents don't care. Compute answers using Wolfram's breakthrough technology & knowledgebase, relied on by millions of students & professionals. SCARBOROUGH: They can't. You do not come off as the hero of this movie. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Daisy and her parents have found one other option. CANADA: Look, no business in America would be in existence if it ran like this. Coming up, right after we're finished here, MSNBC will re-air the two-hour town hall. >> NAKIA: The schools in my area don't measure up as far as the reading is concerned, the math is concerned. Weve seen some innovation spread more than one place. Because you would think that the parents of those children that Michelle was in there shaking up the system to save those children, if those parents would have rallied, but we have gotten so used to failure, we tolerate failure in places like D.C. and central Harlem and Detroit, we just tolerate that failure and we've got to say to this nation, no more. /Rotate 0 It's shameful. Only 3 out of 100 students at Roosevelt will graduate with the necessary classes for admission to a four year university. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you think that most of the kids in D.C. are getting a crappy education right now? After half a year of teaching, I talked to her yesterday, she had brought her kids a year -- more than a year and a half ahead. You fought the law and the law won. /ExtGState << We'll be right back. [37] It criticizes some public figures featured in Waiting for "Superman", proposes different policies to improve education in the United States and counters the position taken by Guggenheim. And the idea that we now can do it means that we have a very moment right now to say let's take those things, let's take those ingredients and bring them into mainstream schools. Geoffrey Canada: I was like what do you mean he's not real. That means politically get involved. SCARBOROUGH: Right. And it's more about a jobs program than it is about the kids. That's what our union has been trying to do for the last two years. endobj Waiting for "Superman," Davis Guggenheim's edifying and heartbreaking new documentary, says that our future depends on good teachers and that the coddling of bad teachers by their powerful unions virtually ensures mediocrity, at best, in both teachers and the students in their care.
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