The other 5 of all these extensions are postion players at different ages and stages in their careers. So they can hamstring their salary cap ceiling by an additional $14M each of the next two years? If Free Agents make $40M in five years, if hes healthy, if he remains productive. Strider is now under contract with the Braves [] So Ill do another one for you since you didnt like my Fried example. As a Mets fan, I hate what the Braves are doing. Now they have him locked in through 2028 with extremely team friendly option in 2029. On the surface it seems like the Braves have made several excellent long-term deals with young talent. They control his first two FA years for somewhere in the range of $40-50MM total, depending how aggressively you want to project his arb numbers and only one of the two years is even guaranteed. People dont seem to understand just how good Striders peripherals are. However, he already has slightly more than a full year of service time. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. You? My stupid destined to be wrong estimate is7 years @160 mill. 5-to-1 Strider has TJ surgery again in the next 5 years. But not to worry, I did that for you. View a free real draft analysis of a fantasy baseball league featuring 12 teams in a STD format. 37. Strider kept it humble when discussing the extension with 'Bally Sports': The Atlanta Braves will begin their NLDS series against Bryce Harper and the Philadelphia Phillies on Tuesday. The Braves should evaluate Swanson based on his last 3 healthy seasons of play. Corbin Burnes going into year 5, second arb season (1 year of control after 2023) is due to make $11.3M in his second to last trip through arbitration. Career Earnings: View Spencer Strider 's Teammates Salaries Current Contract: I hope we dont give Swanson more than 3 years, even if the AAV has to be high. Strider averaged 13.8 strikeouts per nine innings - best in the big leagues - while posting an 11-5 record, 2.67 earned run average, and 202 strikeouts in 131 2/3 innings. Olson can go either way, I think. Meanwhile the Mets toss money at aging crap. Everything can be considered in arbitration. Too much money for a mediocre pitcher with one good year. The Braves pay their 1.66 mil per season regardless for that. Strider becomes the fourth young Braves star to be extended this season alone, joining first baseman Matt Olson (eight years, $168MM), center fielder Michael Harris II (eight years, $72MM) and star third baseman Austin Riley (ten years, $212MM). One could argue that, though. It doesnt benefit both parties, Alex A. is a moron that has signed so many extensions that even with all the great deals he got done, the average $$$ is pushing $180M after only 15 of the contracts. Yeah, if he ends up being average, its definitely an overpay. All logos are the trademark & property of their owners and not Sports Reference LLC. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2955053-mlb-predictions-2022-updated-win-loss-projections-for-every-team, https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2022-mlb-predictions-expert-picks-for-division-winners-and-world-series-champion-ahead-of-opening-day/, Thanks RunDMC, that is pretty lousy that Amy writer had the Mets ahead of the defending WS champions. Thats fair. Now ya have your CF 1b 2b 3b rf and strider all signed to under market value contracts and still have money to sign swanson and dip into free agent pool. Harper was a huge part of that. We just cant afford to pay you market price. There is a reason pitchers are not given long term deals because it is more risky than giving those deals to hitters because of injury and even then, the hitters rarely justify the extensions. Its a lot easier to reference someone who is about 70-80% of the way there. Now this young arm will feel a bit more comfortable coming out on short rest, out of the pen, whatever the case may be knowing he has some security next year and beyond. Otherwise, smart to stash the stache. Total Zone Rating and initial framework for Wins above Replacement calculations provided by Sean Smith. $16M (2026) From pursuing his hobbies to rebuilding his arm action and. If hes just a flash in the pan, this contract will hurt the Braves badly from 2026 to 2028. There certainly wasnt a universal belief the Mets would win the division since the Mets only was 77 games the prior season. Especially not when youre right, lol. Mike Soroka, if he would have been extended at the same time in his career than Strider just was, would have two years of no value add to the team due to his Achilles injuries. This year they got a weak season from Acuna, and they won 101 games and the division. The point being that the new CBA has ZERO effect on arbitration. Doubtful, Strider was just crying and nobody in NY gives a fk what he says. $25M (2028 Option), If he blew the lid off previous seasons with year-to-year, it would be like, $1M (2023) Played 2019 w/a bad heel. even $50M. I bet the Yankees are wishing Judge took that extension earlier this year. Now the baseball world is looking forward to what he could do while serving as a starter over an entire season. Striders is fine assuming he doesnt turn into what every Atlanta farm system pitcher turns into, which is garbage in 3 years. I think thats not quite that straightforward. Yes, he started the season, which means he already has a full year of service time. I know its a business, but much like the Cardinals, the Braves seem to focus more than other clubs on the relational side with their players, thereby giving the Braves an edge over other teams during the respective players FA, if the Braves should choose to being said player back. Spencer Strider Contract 2022 Hell be paid a $4MM salary in 2025 before jumping to $20MM in 2026 and $22MM in 2027 and 2028. Sorry for the confusion. The Braves have extended yet another key member of their impressive young core, this time announcing a six-year, $75MM contract for right-hander Spencer Strider. To think that youre so desperate to troll Braves fans youd pretend you remembered something from 6 years ago that a small minority of Braves fans may/may not have ever said. That means he had a good year, unlike 2022. Gotta love it. They may as well take it. Command was an issue at times in the minors and early in the season, but Strider markedly scaled back on the number of free passes he yielded as the season wore on, finishing out the year with an 8.5% walk rate that was scarcely north of the league average. He easily would have been a Super 2 as well. Over the next 6 years youd probably end up paying him $40m anyway, making the cost of your gamble roughly $40m, since presumably youre paying the buy out in 2029. Instead, he attended Clemson University and played college baseball for the Clemson Tigers. Not to sound too negative, since there are also positives in his hitting profile, but Id have concerns going too long term with him. They are most likely greatly overpaying on those arbitration years. This is the opposite of the Acuna and Albies deals, this wasnt just stupid for the Braves, it will hurt every small market team who will no longer be able to lock up their young players to team friendly deals, so they can remain competitive. So basically they guaranteed his arbitration scale in exchange for an extra year, with an option for another year for more money. Strider finished with a 11-5 record, 2.62 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP through 31 games. the official stats partner of the NBA, NHL and MLB. Amateur career [ edit] I mean, were talking about MLB thats chosen to segregate their most loyal fans by continuing blacking-out games and fracturing the TV market with money-grab, inane exclusive streaming deals (i.e. The rotation is so strong that 39-year-old Morton, who re-signed for one year and $20 million, could possibly. With pitchers, it seems every one goes down with season ending shoulder, elbow and back injuries. Really only has 6 seasons in the ML. He is Strider. Catcher Shea Langeliers and pitcher Spencer Strider, two of the top prospects in the Atlanta Braves organization, have joined the Gwinnett Stripers for the final five home games of 2021. 2023 Pre Arb year $1 million (yes, MLB minimum is $700k) Most rookies dont end up becoming Aaron Judge BTW. Or theyre being proactive to keep future payroll in check and balanced out so they dont get caught with uncertain arbitration costs in the future. It was a tough choice passing on the Yankees, but he wanted to experience college. Atlanta enters Saturday having lost three straight and is 2 games back of the New York Mets for first place in the NL East. And Patrick Corbin with the Yankees. Baez currently is one of the worst hitting SS in MLB. Clemson's top freshman in 2018, but missed 2019 due to injury returned in 2020 as a weekend starter had one of the hardest fastballs on the team was both a long reliever and starter three-time ACC Academic Honor Roll member in 63.0 innings pitched over 26 appearances (10 starts) and two active seasons, he had a 5-2 record . Figuring he sets records all along the way: $1M (2023) Really? Your login session has expired. The deal includes a $22M club option, with a $5M buyout." - @ MLB Transaction Tracker. I do think its a little harder in Boston/New York because success there translates to big dollars everywhere. Saying the Braves arent respected is to play the victim for victims sake. The defending World Series champions will start the NLDS at Truist Park in Atlanta. Position players tend to be better values when extensions are considered, especially in terms of injury risk. He only hit the first two weeks he was up. In 2020, he returned to the field and began playing as a weekend starter. The team looking to sign Swanson should have some concerns that his 2022 is unlike anything prior. Full-year historical Major League statistics provided by Pete Palmer and Gary Gillette of Hidden Game Sports. Swanson is better then Baez. That will fall far short of the top 22 percent. Swanson only played 38 games in his debut season in 2016. Good deal for both sides. Most of his miscalculations are trigger happy overreactions to common slumps and overvaluing prime players, because he doesnt realize the extra value hes trying to quantify is the consistency they bring in being a star player. https://www.mlb.com/news/daniel-camarena-grand-slam-off-max-scherzer, Wouldnt call him aging crap, but hes on the decline. Was Strider ever partially responsible for a teammates death? The only thing accurate is the potentially, saved, and money. Soto himself did not have a top 5 MVP finish this year for example. Since 2019, PinkFloyed is also excellent. Your proof of value starts with if. . This is how a Mets fan copes with his team getting bounced lmao. 2 things: I guess writers should just pick the Braves for ten years because they won a World Series with a 88 win season. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/super-two-status-set-at-2-116-years-of-service.html. Walk rate down to a career low while his K rate is basically at a career high. @BaseballIsLife Thats not what the rule is. Plus, he didn't love being so young and already dependent on medication for daily life. The next time you attempt to impersonate a teacher, use of correct grammar and word definition might lessen your chance of being subjected to ridicule and the embarrassing eyerolls from those subjected to your pompous bloviations. I guess thats why you make comments without referencing who you are talking about or what makes you an expert. Worry about your own team of aging stars and average players. View a free mock draft analysis of a fantasy baseball league featuring 4 teams in a STD format. He is doing well in his personal life as well. Thats great, except he still has to win a Cy Young, get multiple All-Star games, and or win Gold Gloves. Only if its a Top-2 mustache, and it is. The only other way to get that channel is to splurge on the ridiculously overpriced cable providers with their ever-escalating fees. Add in that Yankees more than any other team have their games moved to ESPN and Fox, and its often a challenge to play the game of find the Yankees. Less games on YES, but no reduction in the carriage fee we pay. ". His salary will jump to $20 million in '26 and then rise to $22 million for both of the next two seasons. Strider has two pitches. They average the length of the deal. The $75MM guarantee for Strider shatters any prior precedent for pitchers with such limited experience. AAs notoriously quiet when negotiating. Yeah Strider might get bonuses but it wouldnt be coming from the Braves, it would be coming from the league as a whole. @RunDMC Bingo. Sunday Funday is here, which means fantasy baseball waiver claims are, too. Looking more immediately down the line, the Braves already have $153MM on next years payroll and nearly $110MM on the 2024 payroll. They also made a couple great trades getting future star players that wear near MLB ready (Dansby/Fried). Strider was 11-5 with a 2.67 ERA in 31 games this season. To quote Barney from the Simpsons, Not again!. older demographic) are even able to do that? Annoying, but stuff happens.. Good job locking up one of the top young mustaches in the game. " . If you want to be a continuing part of this Braves dynasty, youll need to give us a discount. . So say he has an impingement, needs surgery, and turns into a 4 ERA SP who goes 120 innings a yearabout the worst case for a dominant 23 year old. Same is true for Strider, this deal doesnt include or exclude those pre-arb bonuses. Theres a reason Cohen has the money he has, and it isnt by being a fool October? Imagine they had given a deal like this to Mike Soroka after his amazing rookie season in 2019. October 28, 1998 Spencer Strider was born on October 28, 1998. If you give 7 a six year deal that takes him through his age 35 season. A year ago, the Super 2 status was set a 2 years and 116 days, which is about normal, even low in recent years with most Super 2 status cutoffs falling in the 130s. The Braves seem like they are making all these extensions so their front office can spend the next 4 winters in Bermuda instead of working. Thats before considering a slate of arbitration-eligible players headlined by lefty Max Fried, whos projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn more than $12MM in 2023. Spellcheck losers are awesome, sorry you missed the pun. Read the article, be not thought of as a moron or an imbecile who is led by his ignorance and unwillingness to gain knowledge, which should be pursued despite the clear lack of capacity for you to store in in your brain! But those decisions and everything will be up to the team, of course, and how we want to plan for the series and stuff. Strider will be Super Two because he will be top 2 in ROY voting and that earns him and extra year of service time in the new CBA. For reference, Kris Bryant was a lock to be a Super Two because he finished 2017 with 2 years and 171 days of service time. the Braves just paid $35 mil for 1 free agent year of Strider I mean this in total sincerity, if you love this deal, you should never manage a real team, let alone budget your own finances personally. The net effect of them not manipulating his service time is that they get an extra draft pick as per the new CBA. From one English major to another, genius! He lost both. 8. Anyone who can sign up to a website and verify a second factor of authorization can do it. Use without license or authorization is expressly prohibited. Draft I was a little shocked at how quickly and how high Striders pay jumps. Revenue in baseball is going up and salaries will also. Its called creative license. As for real estate, go check the difference. Buying out those arbitration years is key to these deals imo. His salary will jump to $20 million in '26 and then rise to $22 million for both of the next two seasons. Most annoying 3-2 hitter Ive watched all season. Also just stick to one account Pads Fans. LOL best rookie season ever. The team has 15 players, none of which are Swanson, taking up $180M of their payroll in 2023. The Marlins simply smell. Then again, I also had concerns with Baez, who has a higher degree of volatility due to his approach. Player page for Spencer Strider of the Atlanta Braves. I wouldnt just throw around $140M in proven assets for $140M in prospects. But Wont cripple the team either way & theyve locked up a young core. Thats not the point Banjo Billy, If hes not willing to extend again in a year, well awww shucks! More importantly, has anybody ever heard of Chris Davis? They were wrong, clearly. Hes a rookie. So $250M from a team in Texas is worth $175M, while the offer from the Yankees or Mets for $250M is worth only $150M due to the tax difference. Everything is an option, quite honestly, Snitker said. I dont really comprehend the LOL. To my point, if we arent sure Friend and Burnes will make $27.5M, why would anyone guarantee it to a rookie with next to no track record, when the over is so little. I sure would like to have more of a track record than a single season. This is a big market spending club unfortunately, And Clayton Kershaw was going to sign with the Rangers cuz hes a local guy. No, theyd be paying him much less than $40M over his arbitration years if he devolves into a 4.00 ERA pitcher., which is far from the worst case scenario for a pitcher who has only a dominant rookie year to date. So yeah, cost of living is a factor. Before joining MLB, he was the top freshman at Clemson in 2018 and later missed the . Gerrit Cole was a Yanks fan growing up, nobody with any knowledge ever though L.A. was really an option. The Giants & Cubbies will follow and up the Goliaths to 5. He earned his initial schooling at the Christian Academy of Knoxville in Knoxville, Tennessee. Swanson is probably walking. His FA years would go up from than final season of arbitration eligibility. Lets say $30 mil for year 3. If the Braves can reposition themselves as Americas Team once again, all that peach juice will come flowing back. He has only 1 All-Star appearance, 2 Gold Gloves, and 1 Silver Slugger. Salary: All-Star: World Series: 2021 Atlanta Braves: 65--2022 Atlanta Braves: Players come and go and rosters turn over constantly. 3rd ARB year was supposed to be $21.5 MM. Weve seen PLENTY of great rookie seasons by SP and most of the time they dont last 3 more years of that elite level. What does a 29 year old with 1 year of control have to do with a 23 year old with 5 years of control left? You are right about Striders value potentially increasing. Time on the injured list doesnt cut into a players service time, neither does short-term bereavement, COVID, or concussion protocols! 37 Blake Snell, SP, SD. Product executive enabling intelligent decisions through enriching and enhancing data and delivering it in awesome products. Anyone who signs Judge will definitely regret that deal in a couple years! The work that Alex Anthopoulos is doing with the Braves is outstanding. You sound like you have a community college education in accounting. Core is in place for about as long as you want it to be. You take risks to lock down his first 2 years of FA. The stuff I read in spring training had the Braves, Phillies and Marlins all ahead of the Mets who were 78-84 the year prior and spent money on a bunch of 30 some odd year olds. HOWEVER, because he will only have 2 years and 3 days, he will not be in the top 22% of service time for guys with more than 2 years and less than 3 years. This website is not directly or indirectly affiliated, associated, or connected in any way to Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the National Football League or the National Hockey League. Love to see this for a team and their fan base, Win win for both sides. These cookies may be set through our site by our advertising partners. ft. is going for $60M+. Players dont sign team friendly controls anymore (Jose Ramirez says youre wrong). Hes most likely looking at something similar but a little less than what Bogaerts signed for. One thing is certain: he divides his time between the four MLB teams. A contract representing mutual respect is a good thing. The reason is pitchers are volatile. Thats not to say every pitcher with between one and four years of service time will now require $75MM+ to sign an extension, of course; Striders case as a Rookie of the Year frontrunner and budding ace is far from the norm. Apply it to all of the offensive players theyve done the same with. Many historical player head shots courtesy of David Davis. So by the time hes done, the new 0-3 money will end up going in large part to him, Raleigh, Strider, Harris II, and Rutschman. If the 2029 option is exercised, the deal will be worth $92 million. Many thanks to him. Yes, it would be more pricey that way, but its worth it to mitigate the good majority of the risk. Sure, but yeah, lets compare his hit totals today which rewards the Rob Deers of the world versus Ty Cobbs and George Sislers era where whole teams hit 15-25 homeruns in a season. 2nd year $14.75 mm, And because he will likely finish top 2 in the ROY balloting, he would have been credited with a full year of service time in 2022 even if the Braves had tried to Kris Bryant him. And as much as I like Acuna and Albies, the injuries have already taken a toll. The Padres have about $57MM on the 28 books between Manny Machado and Fernando Tatis Jr., while the Rangers have about $51MM on the books between Corey Seager and Marcus Semien. First and foremost on the agenda will be negotiations with shortstop Dansby Swanson, wholl be a free agent once the postseason concludes. Extra year for having a mustache. October 6, 2022: Atlanta Braves activated RHP Spencer Strider from the 15-day injured list. Thats conjecture, you stating what his arb years would or wouldnt be considering the volatility of pitchers, players with less than two years of major league experience, players with less than 150 major league innings, and who have barely seen each team once, when pitching has the advantage over hitting when neither has faced each other. Notice I mentioned that those numbers were for 7 years of Swansons production? 2/80m? Not at all. 2023 Payroll Totals 2023 Active Competitive Balance Tax Totals Note: Tax figures based on payroll data only. Acuna had a 41/37 season after he signed, and was in his way to winning the MVP last year before the injury. So obviously the imaginary extra year of arb isnt getting us anywhere near. Edwin Diaz, NYM. It happens, occasionally. Contracts are not based on the back end, they area based on value as a whole. Strider will make $4 million by 2025, with $1 million going to each of the next two seasons. Those two pitchers both took home multiple pieces of hardware. The mlbtr article mentioned that his agency is Frontline. Thats $57M add his one year of included free agency for $35M ($40M is bridge too far for me, sorry) and you have $92M roughly for 6 years. Because of their long-term deals, they are already approaching their cap limit and for that reason will only be able to add Swanson or a frontline pitcher like DeGrom. Doesnt make it a bad deal for the team, either. Wrong bonuses are aside from the yearly contracts and have nothing to do with arbitration contracts either in setting the floor or adding to the annual amount. The risks are present, but the reward is fantastic, not to mention that it gives you the inside track in a few years to talk a further extension. Thats an unlikely worst case for a phenomenal SP, but its there. Injuries are 75% covered by insurance Rookie starter Spencer Strider set a Braves record with 16 strikeouts in eight dominant innings during a 3-0 win over the Rockies on Thursday night. Braves righty Spencer Strider has been put on the 15-day injured list with a strained oblique muscle. Strider will have one pre-arb year then 4 arb seasons. 33. Contact doesnt increase as bat speed wains, hand eye coordination deteriorates, and eye sight worsens. Cohen doesnt care. But all of that is irrelevant, if he starts pitching like he did in Game 3 of the NLDS!! $200 per post at $10/CPM. This. 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