Enjoy your videos very much. For the fourth consecutive time in as many days, the 27 Nosler had done exactly what I had asked of it. Reno Nevada. Unless you want a new, longer range rig, then go for it! Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Because Winchester didnt insist on the caliber being proprietary, anyone could load and chamber for it. high B.C. A year later, I couldnt be happier with my purchase. Nonsense. Joined Feb 1, 2016 Messages 82. because the latter rolls out those wide, .338-inch diameter 250-grain bullets. This meant the .338 Win. Thats good enough for 3,500 ft-lb muzzle punch. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. Yes, the 7mm bullet flies better and can be pushed a bit faster, yet the .30-caliber bullet has more frontal area, dealing a harder initial blow. Less variety in factory loads on the market. bullets coming soon like the 165-grain AccuBond Long Range just announced and the 170-grain Berger EOL Elite Hunter (G1 B.C. Loaded with a 150gr bullet, the 27 Nosler is 400fps faster than a 270 Win, and 300fps faster than a 270 WSM at the muzzle. After all, this was the round Bell used to collect 800 elephants and untold numbers of Cape buffalo. The two old wildebeest bulls weighed about 315 pounds each, and a mature bull elk weighs approximately 650 pounds. Based on the antique .404 Jeffery cartridge case, the 27 Nosler is the first new .277-caliber rifle cartridge . During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. If you can't get it done with the 27 nosler, you won't get it done with the 28 nosler. In 1963, everyone knew the all-American .30/06, so they had a benchmark against which to judge this belted magnum throwing the same familiar bullets 200 fps faster. As an elk cartridge, the .30-06 still shines. The 7mm family hatched around 1892 with the 7x57mm Mauser and has since grown to fifteen or more. slug from the .300 Win. If I can shoot the .28 Nosler without any issues, the vast majority of adult male shooters wont have any issues either. Mag. "Whereas the 6.5s aren't enough for elk and the .30 cals are too much for whitetail, the 6.8 strikes the perfect balance of ballistic performance for all North American big game and in lighter, easier-to-shoot rifle platforms." . Conceived as a 21st century upgrade, the 27 Nosler delivers previously unobtainable downrange ballistics by pairing the ultimate combination of case capacity with modern long-for-caliber bullets. I've got an MRC X3 I am going to rebarrel. Looking for previous installments of our "Behind the Bullet" series? However, if I had it to do over, Id get a .300 PRC. Maybe they are still there . The main body, however, is brass. However, strong-bodied hunters who will only shoot 20 shots in a practice session and a few shots for hunting will likely have no trouble at all. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is with Dawn Wehunt of Rock River Arms INC. learning about the new Ascendant platform. I used a 7mm Rem Mag for years, great cartridge. Mag.,) the 27 Nosler should be able to nudge a 165-grain along at 3,100 fps, perhaps 3,150 fps. These rifle weight/size considerations will influence cartridge size, especially length. of .616 from a 24-inch barrel 3,000 fps and a 190-gr. Say the bullets are more than 180 grains in 300 Win Mag. Re: 27 Nosler vs 28 Nosler. This is a great site and I love the reviews but there are some inconsistencies. The .30-06 is the most powerful cartridge ever adopted by a major military. And to handle that, the SIG cartridge is built with a stainless steel head. It was and still is Everymans (and womans) 30 magnum. 27 Nosler 150gr AccuBond Trophy Grade Ammunition, 27 Nosler 165gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition. The factory ammo and brass is cheaper for the 28 Nosler. The 28 Nosler, on the other hand, was introduced in 2015 and is known for its excellent accuracy and energy retention. There is a persistent myth flying about that the 7mm Rem Mag shoots too fast. Many claim its bullets dont have time to open. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. The 7mm Rem Mag is certainly adequate for any elk, especially with heavier bullets. If zeroed three inches high at 100 yards, that slug should drop just 1.7 inches at 300 yards and deflect just 5.7 inches in a 10 mph right angle wind. loads. Think it all through carefully before choosing. The last elk I killed was nice 6x6 at 260 yds with 270. The .270s are similarly adequate for elkwith caution. Winchesters original .270 of 1925 is still embraced as a mild-shooting, flat-shooting, open-country deer cartridge. Any cartridge in a caliber big enough to hit an elk hard hits you hard, too. Learn More . Stated another way, its the .270s turn. Equally significant is the 27 Noslers recommended twist rate: 1 turn in 8.5 inches. Hornady Outfitter is pretty accurate and its less than its other Nosler cousins. . Nosler, with the introduction of its fifth big-game centerfire cartridge, has changed the potential of the .277-inch bore diameter by tightening the twist rate to 1:8.5, and offering the 165-grain AccuBond Long Range as an option for those who appreciate the higher sectional density and ballistic coefficient. The conventional (and mostly misguided) wisdom is that an elk cartridge should have 1,500 foot pounds of energy at the distance from which you shoot. The venerable .270 Winchester has been a mainstay on gun store racks, ammo displays and in reloaders cabinets for decades. Selecting your perfect elk caliber hinges on you as well as the elk and the landscapes and habitat in which youll hunt them. The 300 WM typically fires bullets between 150 and 220 grains while the 28 Nosler fires bullet weights between 160 and 185 grains. Im a big 270 fan too FYI. Mag. The .28 Nosler is an ideal elk hunting cartridge for todays longer-range, flat-trajectory shooting style. UPC #: 054041612371. I have just always gravitated to the 7mm's over the 270 cartridges. Even at the 500-yard mark, the 27 Nosler will deliver over 2,100 ft.-lbs. 28 Nosler is essentially a shortened version of the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum (7mm RUM). That said, dozens, nay hundreds of elk are layed low each fall by careful application of the 6.5 Creedmoor, a near ballistictwin of the Swede. Well whichever you choose it sounds like you will only be one off. So my final hunting setup only weighs 8 pounds, 8 ounces. In eight-pound rifles, the 7mm Rem. True. A couple of friends swear by the .444 Marlin for hunting elk in oak brush. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. I am thinking of bullet weight and higher B.C. But times change. And, I know they are going to be pretty similar, but, still, I have to choose one. Always, the idea is to hit a bull as well as you can, but you want to hit him hard. It throws a 150-grain bullet 3,300 fps from a 26-inch barrel, about 300 to 400 fps faster than the .270 Winchester, 200 fps faster than the .270 WSSM, and 100 fps quicker than the .270 Weatherby Magnum. Subscriber Services. Mag. It's extremely flat shooting and drops an incredible amount of energy on target. On the other side of the caliber scale are the .35 Whelen (.30/06 necked up) and various .375s. Only downside to the 27N is lack of high BC bullets to really stretch its legs out. will handle the .338 Win. Chambered in the .27 caliber 6.8 Western makes this a certain elk gun. Fine options include the old .264 Win. wheaties300 Well-Known Member. The partition has proven itself over the years to penetrate deep. Elk Hunter 338 Official LRH Sponsor. I think a .30-06 with 180-grain bullet offers about the same performance as a 7mm Remington Magnum with 175-grain bullet. If you hunt where the game is tough, the shots are long and demanding, and there is no room for compromise, there is no better choice than the 27 Nosler. The elk took 3 steps and collapsed. That said, the .284-inch bullet has two advantages. Mag. Not everybody has embraced the rage for rangeand not all elk are found in open country. In this article, Ill cover the pros and cons Ive found with shooting the .28 Nosler on my recent big game hunting adventures. Today most ammo makers also offer 225-grain bullets in a variety of controlled expansion configurations that retain mass well enough to penetrate better than the original 250-grain cup/core styles while delivering equal, sometimes more muzzle energy thanks to higher muzzle velocity. With either factory load, the .28 Nosler is well adapted for hunting both Class 2 and Class 3 big game at long range. And it has worked just find on elk, moose, even big brown bears, though most think it waaay too light for that. Mag. But I also have a 6-foot 2-inch 20-something friend who climbs with a little 6.5 Creedmoor and lays out 66 bulls with single shots at 400 yards. The first has a higher muzzle velocity of 3246 FPS (chronographed on a ProChrony Digital) with a lower G1 ballistic coefficient of 0.496 while the later has a lower muzzle velocity of 3121 . In local stores, you are unlikely to find anything other than Hornadys Precision Hunter 162-grain ELD-X, or a Noslers 175-grain Trophy Hunter load with an Accubond bullet. Just make sure you have the best rifle for the terrain you intend to hunt. Given that 1,500 ft-lb is considered elk power, both projectiles are golden. That increased capacity, coupled with modern powders, allows the 27 Nosler to drive bullets faster and flatter than ever before. 6.5 Creedmoor. will kick with 29.3 ft-lb, and the 300 will slap you with 37 ft-lb. Its been one of the best selling, popular all-round hunting cartridges in the U.S. Much of its appeal is reasonable recoil, fairly significant muzzle velocity in the 3,000 fps range, mid-sized bullet weights found to be ideal for taking deer-sized game and good enough for some larger stuff with good design and placement. If the .338s are the best caliber on the upper end for elk, the 7mms are the best at the lower end. Look at ammo cost to either buy or reload, whichever you do. Ive had unsuccessful elk hunts, but Ive never lost a bull, so my choices have worked for me. The 27 Nosler case has 42% more case capacity than the 270 Winchester, 25% more than the 270 WSM and 12.5% more than the 270 Weatherby. Ditto the .416s, 44s, and 45s. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. One of the main differences between the 26 Nosler vs 28 Nosler is velocity. (Although a fan of Nosler bullets, I do NOT like the ballistic tips for big game), Trophy Bonded, Hornaday's, Barnes X's, Silvertips and Rem Core-lokts. However, since the 2007 advent of the 6.5 Creedmoor, theyve taken the target and hunting world by storm. The Nosler M48 Carbon Mountain Rifle is reviewed and taken to the range, where we shot and tested several handloads. Hunting elk is hard work. With good form, a boat tail 225-grain .338 slug should rate a B.C. bullet makes it easier to hit should you misjudge the range. The factory ammo and brass is cheaper for the 28 Nosler. Calibers lighter and heavier than the 7mms through .338s can be considered excellent for elk. Again, bullet weight. Is 28 Nosler too much for deer? Okay, maybe not a pallet, but a lot. The cartridge is a proven performer. My thoughts are this, the .25-calibers, limited to 120-grain bullets, are too light for bull elk. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7.2mm or 0.284" while the 300 Win Mag fires the more common 30-caliber or 0.308" diameter bullets. At 300 yards that bullet should still carry nearly 2,700 ft-lb energy, which is close to what a 180-grain .308 Winchester coughs up at the muzzle. Fireformed case, overflowing to the neck = 98.4 gr/H2O with a 150 AB seated to 3.340 OAL = 89.9 gr/H2O. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Work the numbers, compare for yourself; at moderate ranges differences arent that dramatic. This new 10mm from FN is rugged, versatile, and effective. And we dont mean the old .270 Winchester. (Or you can just stalk closer and to heck with pushing the envelope. Thats not a typo. Once you start reaching out there, the 28 Nosler really shines. Performance improves. My impression is that traditionalists will stick with the good old .270 Winchester. It will require a 26-inch barrel to reach this speed, but that will make this a superior long range performer and the fastest .270 extant. Trm82 said: I have one getting chambered right now in 27 nosler . More weight and a higher BC equals more energy to transfer to the target. The .277 Fury works with much higher chamber pressures to get high velocity. With greater frontal area (than a .30) and heavy bullets, the .338 will do this. Elk dont like any of this. Do you feel a 140 grain Barnes TTSX would be suitable for elk? The right bullet in the right place. Zero both three inches high at 100 yards and at 400 yards they both drop 11.3 inches and deflect about 8.5 inches in that 10 mph breeze. Its a bolt action looking quite a bit like an AR-15. So, next best thing: If youre serious about longer shots on elk, man up and use a fast .30 with todays heavy, low-drag bullets, 200 to 225 grains. The tougher the terrain, the lighter. That 160 grain Nosler Partition bullet is perfect for hunting really big game where it's really important to use a heavy, well constructed projectile. On that axis deer hunt on Molokai, I had shots ranging from 100 to 250 yards, and while a fast .270 may seem a bit much for even the largest axis deer that ever walked, the bullet handled the windy conditions very well. Cartridge means the case that holds the powder that drives the bullet. It usually includes hiking steep country for days with a pack on your back. Such tools may be infinitely adjustable for precision fit and performance, but Ill walk the woods and get my game with a more classic looking hunting rifle. Watch videos, see the latest gear and more. Kali Parmley, Editor-in-chief of Bakccountry Hunter speaks with Bret Maffet of Franchi Firearms to discuss the all new Momentum All Terrain Elite. If you need to balance reach and punch with minimal weight, Id look to the 7mm magnums pushing 150- to 175-grain bullets. Noslers .27 will be chambered in that companys M48 bolt-action rifles. Hey, Im sorry if I offend your sensibilities, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder and my eye has never beheld beauty in any rifle built with hard angles, holes, posts, adjustable combs and butts, etc. How long of a barrel are you willing to carry? 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. Fear of recoil ruins the best laid plans of mice and men, and thats why choosing the best elk cartridge requires thorough research and honest assessment. Nosler has built quite a cartridge family, and it continues to grow. In addition to the caliber, Nosler also introduced new 165gr AccuBond Long Range bullets in .277, specifically designed for the 27 Noslers faster-than-standard 1-8.5 twist rate. The 190-gr. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. Mag. I had a long and happy love affair with the 8mm Rem Mag. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. If you plan to order your ammunition online, the best elk hunting cartridge Ive seen is probably the Nosler 160-grain Trophy Grade ammunition with a good old Partition bullet. For general Big Game hunting, caliber and expected bullet performance is how I judge killing ability. Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING magazine, Kevin Steele is at the Steiner Optics booth with Alberto Corbetta to discuss the Predator 4 and Predator 8. And he could get it in affordable rifles from several manufacturers. Any rifle/cartridge adequate for elk at long range is also adequate up close, but my concept of a thick-cover elk rifle uses a heavy, large-diameter bullet, without concern for flat trajectory or extreme velocity. At the light end is the .338 Federal, the .308 Winchester case necked up. This short-fat, looking remarkably similar to the 6.8 Western, adds around 200 fps to the best Creedmoor speeds, and that lets you shoot the same bullets with less drop, less wind deflection, and more energy on target. Both new rounds exceed the ballistics of the old one, but do it in different ways. No caliber is more uniquely American than the 270. Mag. After years of hunting and shooting from Africa to Alaska, I think most get cartridge enery wrong. But up close, you notice a custom upgrade that allows this piece of machinery to do [], Citing the critical importance of elk, deer and other big game migration corridors, winter range and other vital habit, the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation urged [], West Virginias elk herd continues to grow and biologists are doing the best they can to monitor the populations health, size, movements and habitat use. I tested the new cartridge at the bench in both the Nosler Model 21 and Nosler Model 48 rifles, and was pleased with the results; the 165-grain load averaged just under -MOA, and the 150-grain load just under one-MOA. A high B.C. However, simply not passing through the body is not necessarily a bad thing, and depends highly on the bullet construction. Two of the newest entrants into this category, the .28 Nosler and the .300 PRC. A high B.C. The elk offers a huge vital zone. If you were to buy a scope for all around elk hunting/500 yards and in 2.5x8 would be just . The SIG Furys is 80,000 psi. With yellow bodies and bright rumps, in open country they can be seen at vast distances, making them a classic long-range target. A .270 Winchester would generate about 20 ft-lbs in the same rifle. 57.5 gr. The included photo of the model/mock up of this case is close but not exact. Lots more powder. Fantastic cartridge and superb bullet! The tighter the cover, the shorter the rifle. The immediate success of the 7mm Rem. Throw the excellent 32 calibers into the mix, the .325 WSM and 8mm Rem. One of them was even a clean pass through and she only walked about 20 yards and piled-up. Im convinced these new, heavy bullets elevate the .270s performance on larger game: Similar to the 7mms with like bullet weights; and exceeding the capability of any 6.5mm. I think the reason the .28 Nosler factory loads are so focused on long range expansion is that it is an extremely capable long range cartridge. Shot placement and bullet performance cause quick humane kills. Along with the .30-06 Springfield and .30-30 Winchester, these cartridges have anchored more deer than any others. Manufacturer #: 61237. but it is not a 1,000. yard Elk rifle it requires skill. If needed, 27 Nosler brass can be formed from 30 Nosler brass. Just $1 per month , A side-by-side comparison of the .270 Winchester vs. .27 Nosler vs. .277 Sig Fury, By Blocker Outdoors Finisher gloves, headcovers and other accessories are available in Mossy Oak Bottomland and Mossy Oak Obsession NWTF camouflage patterns to match various turkey hunting terrain. There are some great 7mm bullets! Mag. Jim. .308-inch diameter bullet carrying 1,500 ft-lb energy and I doubt theyll notice any difference. The 27 Nosler, like its counterparts across the family of Nosler cartridges, has raised the performance bar when it comes to the .277. Heres how to avoid the poseurs and choose the right one. Hunters typically but incorrectly use the best elk calibers to mean cartridge, but Ill use calibers for the sake of this review. To prevent the risk of a 28 Nosler cartridge being chambered in a 27 Nosler chamber, the shoulder of the 27 Nosler has been moved slightly rearward, lengthening the neck slightly. Handloaders report optimum performance with a sleek, high B.C., 225-grain bullet pushed to an impressive 2,882 fps from a 24-inch barrel. Mag. They share a maximum body diameter of 14.0 mm (0.550 in). Heres how it performed. Shot was quartering to and both shots exited behind off shoulder. I wouldnt hesitate to take the 27 Nosler on any elk or moose hunt, and Id also feel comfortable using it on the full gamut of African plains game, as well as leopard. I could go for one of the several faster .33s, but Ive tried most of them. The .27 Nosler works with a larger powder reservoir. Mag., flying half a foot flatter and impacting with an additional 200fps of energy at 500 yards. This list of the best cartridges for elk hunting starts with the welterweights and moves up to the heavy hitters. 30 Nosler cases are preferred if forming 27 Nosler cases because of the similar shoulder dimension. One of the most effective elk calibers available. With the right bullet and .308 hunting rifle, the ubiquitous .308 Winchester is more than adequate out to 300 yards where a high B.C. Inside of 500 yards the ballistics and energy are comparable. Mag. Mag., some less. The 27 Nosler should be easy enough. My picks for the best elk hunting calibers are what I consider the best, not the most popular. . Heavier bullets. With this bullet, each elk dropped in it's tracks with only one shot, all between 100-350 yards away. This nudges MV (muzzle velocity) to 3,200 fps and increases recoil velocity to almost 18 fps and energy to nearly . Quite a few elk have fallen from the 117hh in a wsm at . Thats the key to each of these new .270 cartridges. No matter 27 or 28 caliber. The 27 Nosler follows on the heels of the success of its siblingsthe 26, 28, 30 and 33 Noslersbeing based on the classic .404 Jeffery case, shortened to fit in a standard long-action and with much of the body taper removed to enhance case capacity. launched 2,600 fps will still be churning some 1,800 ft-lb energy. With archery energy is not the killing factor, yet arrows kill big elk quickly. I would go with the 28. I further suspect, nay, predict no deer, elk, or bear addressed by any of these is going to like them. Whats best for you depends on the distance you intend to shoot, based on where you hunt. Recoil is about 30-percent less than the .338 Win. Mag., .300 RUM, and .30-378 Wby. Ive just shown that its no faster than the .300 Win. Most 225-grain factory loads are rated 2,750 to 2,800 fps, enough velocity to put about 3,900 ft-lb of energy into that little bullet. Think Remington M700s, Savage M110s, Ruger M77s, and even the Browning Autoloading Rifle. Keep it on 4 unless you have lots of time at longer range then you can crank it up. By the way, the .277 SIG Fury arose out of SIGs project to build a light, belt-fed .277 machine gun cartridge and rifle for the U.S. military. Will the 27 Nosler shove the .270 Winchester out of the limelight? To contain 80,000 psi pressures SIG has built a reportedly beefy rifle. If you like velocity, the 27 Nosler will fit the bill, as it drives the 150-grain bullets to a muzzle velocity of 3300 fps, and the 165-grain bullets to 3150 fps. In both cases, the 163 grain ELD-X bullet did not exit the animals body and used all that energy inside the vitals. Adequate, but be careful and watch the distance. Lighter recoil matched to .300 Win. So, in open country, a fast 7mm has tremendous appeal. 28 Nosler is essentially a shortened version of the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum (7mm RUM). Retains > 1,700 foot/pounds of energy at 500 yards. throwing similar weight projectiles means youre packing elk medicine. Over the decades, millions of deer, elk, sheep, bears and pronghorn have fallen to it, to grace the tables and walls of Americas hunters and add chapters to the American hunting lore. Although Ive been shooting all my life, I have to mentally check my shoulder mount before I pull the trigger. Product #: 503034. They shoot flatter, but they kick me into next week. Call me crazy but the 117hh at 3700 would be hard to beat at 500yds. For over 90 years, American hunters have taken to the field in pursuit of nearly all the game the lower 48 states have to offer with a trusty 270 in hand. Recoil isn't bad and it will lay out the ft/lbs of energy as ways. Mag. Comparing this with the 160- and 175-grain bullets of the 7mm bore diameter, and it isnt hard to see that advantage of the slightly larger bore diameter. Publisher Kevin Steele is in the Beretta booth with Logan Killam, the Shotgun Product Manager, to discuss the all new Beretta A300 Ultima Turkey. hatched five years later and gave big brother a real run for his money. It nearly matched ballistics of the Weatherby Magnum. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Traditional .270s are limited by 1:10 rifling twist to 150-grain bullets. One of the shots put the wildebeest flat on the ground immediately. We use cookies to make your experience better. Elk/Moose Sized Game; A 140- to 150-grain .264 driven to the same speeds as a .270 Win. Still a great cartridge, as is the .300 Weatherby. 27 Nosler ; 270 Weatherby Magnum; 270 Winchester; 270 Winchester Short Magnum; 28 Nosler; 280 Ackley Improved; . With its case capacity (98.4 grains water compared to about 80 grains in a .270 Wby. I haven't loaded the 27 nosler. That bullet offers the best of all worlds, as it will reliably expand at longer ranges when it has slowed down a bit, yet will hold together at woods distances when velocities remain high . Re-barrel to the 27 Nosler and go kill elk. Good bullet design and placement seem to work just fine. Im not not the kind of shooter that whips out a 50BMG or .338 Lapua for a casual day on the range. Required fields are marked *. I have shot most of my big game with a 270 Win or a 270 WSM. In comparison a 250-grain slug at 2,600 fps will churn up just 3,750 ft-lb. IMR 7828, IMR 7977 and IMR 8133; Reloder 26 and Reloder 33; Hodgdons H1000 and H50BMG; all make good choices for the big case. Despite the age and reputation of the 6.555 Swede cartridge across Europe, the 26-calibers have never been a go to for elk in North America. Heres a look at 10 of the most flexible long-range hunting cartridges. The .28 Nosler shoots flat and powerfully, but it is expensive to shoot, burns barrels quickly, and has significant recoil. bullets, weight to weight, have a higher SD for potentially better penetration. []. The cartridge fires a bullet with a diameter of .284 inches or 7mm. The new Sig round is wildly different than any other .270 cartridge because its been chronographed spitting 140-grain .277 bullets 3,000 fps. Video of Elk Being Shot with .28 Noslerif(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_13',175,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0'); Nosler even advertises the .28 Nosler primarily as an elk cartridge. And then what will barrel life be like? The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. Why so fast? Design evolves. This will be for shooting mono-metal bullets mostly for elk hunting. Makes me feel good to see I am within 150 fps of the 27 Nosler. The 28 Nosler and Remington Ultra Magnum adds about 250 fps to the Rem. However, you should be aware that the recoil on a .28 Nosler is not right for all shooters. Hornady Outfitter is pretty accurate and its less than its other Nosler cousins. The 27 Nosler has a neck length of 0.328, so neck tension isnt an issue at all; generally speaking, the cartridges neck should be at least one caliber in length, and most are, with the glaring exception of the .300 Winchester Magnum. The .338 Win. We had set up in what I considered to be a less-than-advantageous position, a bit too skylined for my liking, and with very little cover. Measured in foot pounds of energy, the .28 Nosler is a powerhouse. He wasnt quite prepared for the recoil when the rifle was mounted on his shoulder over a puffy coat.